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]]> By: Jenni http://www.mikeonads.com/2007/03/26/the-uberall-definition-of-spyware/comment-page-1/#comment-37 Jenni Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:18:48 +0000 http://www.mikeonads.com/2007/03/26/the-uberall-definition-of-spyware/#comment-37 Sorry - that was meant to read "Hi Mike"... Apologies. Thanks! Sorry – that was meant to read “Hi Mike”…

Apologies.

Thanks!

]]> By: Jenni http://www.mikeonads.com/2007/03/26/the-uberall-definition-of-spyware/comment-page-1/#comment-36 Jenni Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:17:52 +0000 http://www.mikeonads.com/2007/03/26/the-uberall-definition-of-spyware/#comment-36 Hi Bob! No problem!! Thanks for the info - appreciate it. Jenni Hi Bob!

No problem!!

Thanks for the info – appreciate it.

Jenni

]]> By: Mike http://www.mikeonads.com/2007/03/26/the-uberall-definition-of-spyware/comment-page-1/#comment-35 Mike Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:42:58 +0000 http://www.mikeonads.com/2007/03/26/the-uberall-definition-of-spyware/#comment-35 Jenni, Let me apologize, I didn't mean to let this post come off as negative towards your position, it was more a rant on the lack of the definition of 'spyware'. If one DOES decide to accept behavioral cookies, make sure that the advertiser/network is a part of the '<a href="http://www.networkadvertising.org/" rel="nofollow">Network Advertising Initiative</a>'. This association is leading the way in setting standards on data collection and privacy. Working with one of <a href="http://www.networkadvertising.org/industry/members.asp" rel="nofollow">these companies</a> will ensure that your site does not end up with 9 different cookies which is absolutely unacceptable. Bob -- You stole my thunder, that was going to be my next post =). Jenni,

Let me apologize, I didn’t mean to let this post come off as negative towards your position, it was more a rant on the lack of the definition of ’spyware’.

If one DOES decide to accept behavioral cookies, make sure that the advertiser/network is a part of the ‘Network Advertising Initiative‘. This association is leading the way in setting standards on data collection and privacy. Working with one of these companies will ensure that your site does not end up with 9 different cookies which is absolutely unacceptable.

Bob — You stole my thunder, that was going to be my next post =).

]]> By: Bob http://www.mikeonads.com/2007/03/26/the-uberall-definition-of-spyware/comment-page-1/#comment-34 Bob Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:53:06 +0000 http://www.mikeonads.com/2007/03/26/the-uberall-definition-of-spyware/#comment-34 Putting aside privacy/ethic considerations, this is a strong tactic to use in the <a href="http://www.mikeonads.com/2007/03/05/battle-over-the-cookie/" rel="nofollow">Battle Over the Cookie</a>. Sitemeter has enough reach to give context data to a behavioral ad network, as long as that network is able to assess the "behavioral category" to which different sites belong. That said, privacy/ethics/disclosure considerations look like they will doom these plans. Putting aside privacy/ethic considerations, this is a strong tactic to use in the Battle Over the Cookie. Sitemeter has enough reach to give context data to a behavioral ad network, as long as that network is able to assess the “behavioral category” to which different sites belong.

That said, privacy/ethics/disclosure considerations look like they will doom these plans.

]]> By: Jenni http://www.mikeonads.com/2007/03/26/the-uberall-definition-of-spyware/comment-page-1/#comment-33 Jenni Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:25:31 +0000 http://www.mikeonads.com/2007/03/26/the-uberall-definition-of-spyware/#comment-33 Hi Mike, We jus thought we'd clarify what we're talking about in our post. We don’t believe that we should abuse our member websites by sneakily using them to place OTHER people’s cookies on THEIR visitors’ browsers. When you log onto the StatCounter website, we display ads to fund the service. This can result in cookies being created. As happens on any site. In fact, as you browse the web, you pick up lots of cookies. Our point is, that we do not force extra cookies on the people who visit YOUR site. THAT is what is happening with another provider. If you have StatCounter: Clear your cookies. Visit your OWN site. You won’t see any cookies other than a StatCounter one - this means that we are NOT foisting nasty cookies on your visitors. If you have “the other provider”: Clear your cookies. Visit YOUR site. Gasp at the amount of cookies created - this is what all your visitors are being subjected to! Does that make sense? Also, 1) Info on you is sent to the advertiser any time you hit a site with ‘the other’ stats pack installed. 2) The javascript behind a cookie can be changed at will to display pop-ups. 3) The extra java script to load does slow down your site. Hope that clears things up a bit. If you need any further info, just shout! StatCounter Team (By the way, on our upgraded accounts, you have the option to disable the ads.) Hi Mike,

We jus thought we’d clarify what we’re talking about in our post.

We don’t believe that we should abuse our member websites by sneakily using them to place OTHER people’s cookies on THEIR visitors’ browsers.

When you log onto the StatCounter website, we display ads to fund the service. This can result in cookies being created. As happens on any site. In fact, as you browse the web, you pick up lots of cookies.

Our point is, that we do not force extra cookies on the people who visit YOUR site. THAT is what is happening with another provider.

If you have StatCounter:
Clear your cookies.
Visit your OWN site.
You won’t see any cookies other than a StatCounter one – this means that we are NOT foisting nasty cookies on your visitors.

If you have “the other provider”:
Clear your cookies.
Visit YOUR site.
Gasp at the amount of cookies created – this is what all your visitors are being subjected to!

Does that make sense?

Also,

1) Info on you is sent to the advertiser any time you hit a site with ‘the other’ stats pack installed.
2) The javascript behind a cookie can be changed at will to display pop-ups.
3) The extra java script to load does slow down your site.

Hope that clears things up a bit.

If you need any further info, just shout!

StatCounter Team

(By the way, on our upgraded accounts, you have the option to disable the ads.)

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